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Message 1 - Posted 1 Aug 2011 6:11:35 UTC

    Found the project by accident today. I see lots of workunits available..and I've crunched some with out issues so far.

    Is this project intended to be public ? Related to Almeregrid ?

    I see tables.xml in the stats directory but nothing else. Do you intend to export xml stats ?

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    Message 2 - Posted 2 Aug 2011 10:12:43 UTC - in response to Message.

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      Very similar client and purpose to the current test client on AlmereGrid TestGrid (statistical correlation of genomes), I think.

      Front page "The application has been developed in The Netherlands at the Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam" - that could be where AlmereGrid TestGrid is at?
      although I never saw references to Erasmus there or at EDGeS. Intriguing. :)

      Yes please, export stats.

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      Message 3 - Posted 2 Aug 2011 11:07:58 UTC - in response to Message.

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        found it - post#54 - there is reference to an AlmereGrid pdf document that mentions Erasmus:
        http://boinc.almeregrid.nl/forum_thread.php?id=24#50

        So, the client and purpose is one and the same, except that AlmereGrid implements the test (AlmereGrid TestGridand) production (AlmereGrid) versions and this one in Germany (correlizer) is the production version only.
        But clearly they are coordinated efforts.

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        Message 4 - Posted 2 Aug 2011 14:41:26 UTC

          Tasks are running well, no problems to report.

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          Message 6 - Posted 3 Aug 2011 1:29:01 UTC

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            yay, for the export... :)

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            Message 7 - Posted 3 Aug 2011 3:57:47 UTC

              This server is managed by the Erasmus Grid Office and is intended to be public,
              we need to make some changes on the web server to set everything correctly and
              add some topics to the message boards, which we'll be doing later this week.

              Followed is some initial information about us.

              The Erasmus Grid Office offers services to the researchers within the Erasmus
              Medical Centre who are in need of high performance computing resources for
              there projects. There are several grid infrastructures where we have access on
              which include desktop grids and dedicated clusters.

              Erasmus Computing Grid: A joint collaboration between the Erasmus Medical
              Centre and the High school of Rotterdam which consist of Condor based desktop
              grids.

              D-Grid: The German Grid Initiative funded by the Federal Ministry of
              Education and Research, a grid infrastructure consisting of numerous
              dedicated high performance computing clusters where they use Globus,
              LCG/gLite and UNICORE as middlewares.

              EDGeS (Enabling Desktop Grids for e-Science), a European project with the aim
              of creating an integrated Grid infrastructure consisting of BOINC and
              XtremWeb based desktop grids.

              Fraunhofer Playstation Cluster: A joint cooperation between the Fraunhofer
              ITWM and IBM Development Lab in Böblingen which consist of thousand cell
              processor cores.

              This is controlled by a backend that handles all the grid related tasks on
              these infrastructures for our users, who in there turn use a frontend system to
              communicate with the backend. Correlizer is one of those services where the
              backend will eventually also schedule jobs to Boinc servers and as most of you
              already have noticed AlmereGrid is one of them. Currently the bridge is not
              completely hooked up to the backend and the pipeline is setup in a slightly
              different way to make it work.


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              Message 11 - Posted 3 Aug 2011 8:42:48 UTC - in response to Message.

                Very interesting !!
                Thank you for these information !!

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                Message 28 - Posted 5 Aug 2011 18:11:49 UTC

                  Best wishes for the new project.
                  Cheers!

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                  Message 30 - Posted 5 Aug 2011 21:58:22 UTC

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                    Tasks are running well, no problems.

                    Its a very interesting Project to Almeregrid !!
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                    Message 42 - Posted 7 Aug 2011 12:03:26 UTC - in response to Message.

                      This server is managed by the Erasmus Grid Office and is intended to be public,
                      we need to make some changes on the web server to set everything correctly and
                      add some topics to the message boards, which we'll be doing later this week.

                      Followed is some initial information about us.

                      The Erasmus Grid Office offers services to the researchers within the Erasmus
                      Medical Centre who are in need of high performance computing resources for
                      there projects. There are several grid infrastructures where we have access on
                      which include desktop grids and dedicated clusters.

                      Erasmus Computing Grid: A joint collaboration between the Erasmus Medical
                      Centre and the High school of Rotterdam which consist of Condor based desktop
                      grids.

                      D-Grid: The German Grid Initiative funded by the Federal Ministry of
                      Education and Research, a grid infrastructure consisting of numerous
                      dedicated high performance computing clusters where they use Globus,
                      LCG/gLite and UNICORE as middlewares.

                      EDGeS (Enabling Desktop Grids for e-Science), a European project with the aim
                      of creating an integrated Grid infrastructure consisting of BOINC and
                      XtremWeb based desktop grids.

                      Fraunhofer Playstation Cluster: A joint cooperation between the Fraunhofer
                      ITWM and IBM Development Lab in Böblingen which consist of thousand cell
                      processor cores.

                      This is controlled by a backend that handles all the grid related tasks on
                      these infrastructures for our users, who in there turn use a frontend system to
                      communicate with the backend. Correlizer is one of those services where the
                      backend will eventually also schedule jobs to Boinc servers and as most of you
                      already have noticed AlmereGrid is one of them. Currently the bridge is not
                      completely hooked up to the backend and the pipeline is setup in a slightly
                      different way to make it work.


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                      Erasmus Grid Office


                      This is good information, you should post this in the science sectuion and make it a stick note.

                      I would also like to see a little information in your profile so we know a little more abbout you.

                      I love the new front page, that explains so much i don't need to ask any more.

                      Except, I see from about that this is part of, or joined with other grids, Is the work here different from any other, What I guess I mean is it is not duplicating any work, say that Almergrid might put out ?

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                      Message 44 - Posted 8 Aug 2011 3:32:49 UTC

                        I need to discuss some things with Tobias to see what (other) topics to add to
                        the message boards. I will also update my profile by the time we officially go in
                        production, shouldn't take more then a couple of days.

                        About the collaboration with other grids, the work on the dedicated clusters and
                        the Erasmus Computing Grid all use the same sequence but calculate different
                        window sizes. For the BOINC infrastructures this is currently not the case, here
                        each server calculates another sequence but in all cases no duplicated work is
                        send (except of course for the redundant workunits). This will change in the near
                        future when the bridge is completely hooked up with the backend, then it will
                        also work on the same sequence as the other grids do.

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                        Message 47 - Posted 9 Aug 2011 15:03:59 UTC - in response to Message.

                          I need to discuss some things with Tobias to see what (other) topics to add to
                          the message boards.

                          One popular topic, for the users, is a "Team Recruitment" catagory, otherwise there end up a lot of new threads in number crunching.

                          The cafe is OK for this type of thing, but without a specific area, some teams don't know where to post.

                          Also makes all catagories, more readable by keeping separate.

                          I will also update my profile by the time we officially go in
                          production, shouldn't take more then a couple of days.


                          Good news we like to hear.

                          About the collaboration with other grids, the work on the dedicated clusters and
                          the Erasmus Computing Grid all use the same sequence but calculate different
                          window sizes. For the BOINC infrastructures this is currently not the case, here
                          each server calculates another sequence but in all cases no duplicated work is
                          send (except of course for the redundant workunits). This will change in the near
                          future when the bridge is completely hooked up with the backend, then it will
                          also work on the same sequence as the other grids do.


                          OK, I think I get it, I had seen a post on another forum and they had posted you ahd the same application with no other information, like they were saying it was duplicating effort. I just want to be clear it is not duplicated work.

                          Working on different parts of the same "problem" at the same time is OK.

                          Some users however may want to know this and either particiapate only in one project, or split thier resources between the two.

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                          Message 50 - Posted 10 Aug 2011 4:16:36 UTC - in response to Message.

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                            Couldn't get in touch with Tobias for the science part of the forum yet, but have
                            added the 'Team Recruitment' forum as you suggested.

                            OK, I think I get it, I had seen a post on another forum and they had
                            posted you ahd the same application with no other information, like they were
                            saying it was duplicating effort. I just want to be clear it is not duplicated work.


                            We need to talk with the different BOINC collaborators to see if we can add (or
                            link) some information on there pages, because the information is not always
                            correct or even there in some cases.

                            Cheers,

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                            Message 57 - Posted 10 Aug 2011 14:08:46 UTC - in response to Message.

                              Couldn't get in touch with Tobias for the science part of the forum yet, but have
                              added the 'Team Recruitment' forum as you suggested.

                              OK, I think I get it, I had seen a post on another forum and they had
                              posted you ahd the same application with no other information, like they were
                              saying it was duplicating effort. I just want to be clear it is not duplicated work.


                              We need to talk with the different BOINC collaborators to see if we can add (or
                              link) some information on there pages, because the information is not always
                              correct or even there in some cases.

                              Cheers,

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                              Things are shaping up nicely so far, I'm glad to give suggestions and also see them acted upon. Only too happy to help shape things up where I can.

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                              Message 60 - Posted 10 Aug 2011 21:41:36 UTC - in response to Message.

                                .....We need to talk with the different BOINC collaborators to see if we can add (or
                                link) some information on there pages, because the information is not always
                                correct or even there in some cases.

                                Cheers,

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                                Yes it would be good if you could sometime soon give BOINCstats authorisation to include Correlizer in their daily statistics.


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                                Message 66 - Posted 12 Aug 2011 3:16:36 UTC - in response to Message.

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                                  Yes it would be good if you could sometime soon give BOINCstats authorisation to include Correlizer in their daily statistics.


                                  Someone already started a thread on there forums, and Crystal Pellet is indeed correct,
                                  AlmereGrid runs the same correlizer applications (they have one project with
                                  all the applications they support in there, where correlizer is one of them).

                                  I will post a message on there to clarify some things after i made some layout
                                  changes to the site.

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                                  Message 68 - Posted 12 Aug 2011 4:08:46 UTC - in response to Message.

                                    Thank you, I'm not certain but I think BOINCstats sometimes waits until an administrator of a new project gives the official OK before publicly displaying statistics.

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                                    Message 73 - Posted 12 Aug 2011 16:02:07 UTC

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                                      How this has worked on other new projects for BOINCStats is you can either email Willy or post in your "NEWS" topic the new project and that stat's services can display the information. Until stats are displayed, some BOINCStats users will naturally shy away from the project. I hope this helps. Cheers!
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                                      Message 78 - Posted 13 Aug 2011 9:18:03 UTC

                                        I added the stats for Correlizer but did not make them public yet. Didn't add it to BAM! either. When the project admin gives his OK I'll release the stats/add it to BAM!.

                                        http://boincstats.com/stats/user_stats.php?pr=correlizer&st=0

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                                        Message 83 - Posted 14 Aug 2011 5:35:43 UTC - in response to Message.

                                          Thanks for the information, there are still some small things we need to do, but
                                          if that doesn't pose as a problem you can release the stats.

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                                          Message 91 - Posted 15 Aug 2011 20:06:16 UTC

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                                            Stats are now showing in BOINC Combined, BOINCstats and Free-DC.

                                            I gave MundayWeb a bump and reference to this thread.

                                            I haven't checked other stat sites yet.

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