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Found the project by accident today. I see lots of workunits available..and I've crunched some with out issues so far.
Is this project intended to be public ? Related to Almeregrid ?
I see tables.xml in the stats directory but nothing else. Do you intend to export xml stats ?
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Very similar client and purpose to the current test client on AlmereGrid TestGrid (statistical correlation of genomes), I think.
Front page "The application has been developed in The Netherlands at the Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam" - that could be where AlmereGrid TestGrid is at?
although I never saw references to Erasmus there or at EDGeS. Intriguing. :)
Yes please, export stats.
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found it - post#54 - there is reference to an AlmereGrid pdf document that mentions Erasmus:
http://boinc.almeregrid.nl/forum_thread.php?id=24#50
So, the client and purpose is one and the same, except that AlmereGrid implements the test (AlmereGrid TestGridand) production (AlmereGrid) versions and this one in Germany (correlizer) is the production version only.
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Tasks are running well, no problems to report. |
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yay, for the export... :)
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Honto niProject administrator Project developer Project tester Project scientist Send message Joined: Jul 30 11 Posts: 95 Credit: 18,139 RAC: 0
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This server is managed by the Erasmus Grid Office and is intended to be public,
we need to make some changes on the web server to set everything correctly and
add some topics to the message boards, which we'll be doing later this week.
Followed is some initial information about us.
The Erasmus Grid Office offers services to the researchers within the Erasmus
Medical Centre who are in need of high performance computing resources for
there projects. There are several grid infrastructures where we have access on
which include desktop grids and dedicated clusters.
Erasmus Computing Grid: A joint collaboration between the Erasmus Medical
Centre and the High school of Rotterdam which consist of Condor based desktop
grids.
D-Grid: The German Grid Initiative funded by the Federal Ministry of
Education and Research, a grid infrastructure consisting of numerous
dedicated high performance computing clusters where they use Globus,
LCG/gLite and UNICORE as middlewares.
EDGeS (Enabling Desktop Grids for e-Science), a European project with the aim
of creating an integrated Grid infrastructure consisting of BOINC and
XtremWeb based desktop grids.
Fraunhofer Playstation Cluster: A joint cooperation between the Fraunhofer
ITWM and IBM Development Lab in Böblingen which consist of thousand cell
processor cores.
This is controlled by a backend that handles all the grid related tasks on
these infrastructures for our users, who in there turn use a frontend system to
communicate with the backend. Correlizer is one of those services where the
backend will eventually also schedule jobs to Boinc servers and as most of you
already have noticed AlmereGrid is one of them. Currently the bridge is not
completely hooked up to the backend and the pipeline is setup in a slightly
different way to make it work.
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Very interesting !!
Thank you for these information !! |
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Best wishes for the new project.
Cheers! |
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Tasks are running well, no problems.
Its a very interesting Project to Almeregrid !!
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This server is managed by the Erasmus Grid Office and is intended to be public,
we need to make some changes on the web server to set everything correctly and
add some topics to the message boards, which we'll be doing later this week.
Followed is some initial information about us.
The Erasmus Grid Office offers services to the researchers within the Erasmus
Medical Centre who are in need of high performance computing resources for
there projects. There are several grid infrastructures where we have access on
which include desktop grids and dedicated clusters.
Erasmus Computing Grid: A joint collaboration between the Erasmus Medical
Centre and the High school of Rotterdam which consist of Condor based desktop
grids.
D-Grid: The German Grid Initiative funded by the Federal Ministry of
Education and Research, a grid infrastructure consisting of numerous
dedicated high performance computing clusters where they use Globus,
LCG/gLite and UNICORE as middlewares.
EDGeS (Enabling Desktop Grids for e-Science), a European project with the aim
of creating an integrated Grid infrastructure consisting of BOINC and
XtremWeb based desktop grids.
Fraunhofer Playstation Cluster: A joint cooperation between the Fraunhofer
ITWM and IBM Development Lab in Böblingen which consist of thousand cell
processor cores.
This is controlled by a backend that handles all the grid related tasks on
these infrastructures for our users, who in there turn use a frontend system to
communicate with the backend. Correlizer is one of those services where the
backend will eventually also schedule jobs to Boinc servers and as most of you
already have noticed AlmereGrid is one of them. Currently the bridge is not
completely hooked up to the backend and the pipeline is setup in a slightly
different way to make it work.
Anis Abuseiris
Erasmus Grid Office
This is good information, you should post this in the science sectuion and make it a stick note.
I would also like to see a little information in your profile so we know a little more abbout you.
I love the new front page, that explains so much i don't need to ask any more.
Except, I see from about that this is part of, or joined with other grids, Is the work here different from any other, What I guess I mean is it is not duplicating any work, say that Almergrid might put out ? |
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Honto niProject administrator Project developer Project tester Project scientist Send message Joined: Jul 30 11 Posts: 95 Credit: 18,139 RAC: 0
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I need to discuss some things with Tobias to see what (other) topics to add to
the message boards. I will also update my profile by the time we officially go in
production, shouldn't take more then a couple of days.
About the collaboration with other grids, the work on the dedicated clusters and
the Erasmus Computing Grid all use the same sequence but calculate different
window sizes. For the BOINC infrastructures this is currently not the case, here
each server calculates another sequence but in all cases no duplicated work is
send (except of course for the redundant workunits). This will change in the near
future when the bridge is completely hooked up with the backend, then it will
also work on the same sequence as the other grids do.
Anis Abuseiris
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I need to discuss some things with Tobias to see what (other) topics to add to
the message boards.
One popular topic, for the users, is a "Team Recruitment" catagory, otherwise there end up a lot of new threads in number crunching.
The cafe is OK for this type of thing, but without a specific area, some teams don't know where to post.
Also makes all catagories, more readable by keeping separate.
I will also update my profile by the time we officially go in
production, shouldn't take more then a couple of days.
Good news we like to hear.
About the collaboration with other grids, the work on the dedicated clusters and
the Erasmus Computing Grid all use the same sequence but calculate different
window sizes. For the BOINC infrastructures this is currently not the case, here
each server calculates another sequence but in all cases no duplicated work is
send (except of course for the redundant workunits). This will change in the near
future when the bridge is completely hooked up with the backend, then it will
also work on the same sequence as the other grids do.
OK, I think I get it, I had seen a post on another forum and they had posted you ahd the same application with no other information, like they were saying it was duplicating effort. I just want to be clear it is not duplicated work.
Working on different parts of the same "problem" at the same time is OK.
Some users however may want to know this and either particiapate only in one project, or split thier resources between the two.
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Honto niProject administrator Project developer Project tester Project scientist Send message Joined: Jul 30 11 Posts: 95 Credit: 18,139 RAC: 0
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Couldn't get in touch with Tobias for the science part of the forum yet, but have
added the 'Team Recruitment' forum as you suggested.
OK, I think I get it, I had seen a post on another forum and they had
posted you ahd the same application with no other information, like they were
saying it was duplicating effort. I just want to be clear it is not duplicated work.
We need to talk with the different BOINC collaborators to see if we can add (or
link) some information on there pages, because the information is not always
correct or even there in some cases.
Cheers,
Anis Abuseiris
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Couldn't get in touch with Tobias for the science part of the forum yet, but have
added the 'Team Recruitment' forum as you suggested.
OK, I think I get it, I had seen a post on another forum and they had
posted you ahd the same application with no other information, like they were
saying it was duplicating effort. I just want to be clear it is not duplicated work.
We need to talk with the different BOINC collaborators to see if we can add (or
link) some information on there pages, because the information is not always
correct or even there in some cases.
Cheers,
Anis Abuseiris
Erasmus Grid Office
Things are shaping up nicely so far, I'm glad to give suggestions and also see them acted upon. Only too happy to help shape things up where I can. |
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.....We need to talk with the different BOINC collaborators to see if we can add (or
link) some information on there pages, because the information is not always
correct or even there in some cases.
Cheers,
Anis Abuseiris
Erasmus Grid Office
Yes it would be good if you could sometime soon give BOINCstats authorisation to include Correlizer in their daily statistics.
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Honto niProject administrator Project developer Project tester Project scientist Send message Joined: Jul 30 11 Posts: 95 Credit: 18,139 RAC: 0
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Yes it would be good if you could sometime soon give BOINCstats authorisation to include Correlizer in their daily statistics.
Someone already started a thread on there forums, and Crystal Pellet is indeed correct,
AlmereGrid runs the same correlizer applications (they have one project with
all the applications they support in there, where correlizer is one of them).
I will post a message on there to clarify some things after i made some layout
changes to the site.
Anis Abuseiris
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Thank you, I'm not certain but I think BOINCstats sometimes waits until an administrator of a new project gives the official OK before publicly displaying statistics. |
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How this has worked on other new projects for BOINCStats is you can either email Willy or post in your "NEWS" topic the new project and that stat's services can display the information. Until stats are displayed, some BOINCStats users will naturally shy away from the project. I hope this helps. Cheers!
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I added the stats for Correlizer but did not make them public yet. Didn't add it to BAM! either. When the project admin gives his OK I'll release the stats/add it to BAM!.
http://boincstats.com/stats/user_stats.php?pr=correlizer&st=0 |
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Honto niProject administrator Project developer Project tester Project scientist Send message Joined: Jul 30 11 Posts: 95 Credit: 18,139 RAC: 0
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Thanks for the information, there are still some small things we need to do, but
if that doesn't pose as a problem you can release the stats.
Anis Abuseiris
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Stats are now showing in BOINC Combined, BOINCstats and Free-DC.
I gave MundayWeb a bump and reference to this thread.
I haven't checked other stat sites yet. |
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